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      I have been using Movim for just one day and these are my impressions*

      Timothée Jaussoin · Wednesday, 5 April, 2017 - 17:09 edit · 5 minutes

    I'd like to reply to this post with some details that, I think, could be interesting for the other Movim users :)

    When you add a contact they must accept your request and, when they accept it, you have to confirm it again. I sent them the request, of course I want to be friends! This last step doesn’t make much sense

    This is actually related to the default XMPP protocol behavior regarding contacts invitations, thanks for the feedback I'll try to see how I can improve that in the upcoming release.

    If someone has sent you a friend request you won’t be able to log in on Movim for Android: you’ll have to accept (or decline) the friendship request on a web browser and only then will you be able to sign in on Movim for Android again

    This bug doesn't seems related to the friend request to me (I have several pending requests on my account and I didn't had this related authentification issue). However the bug seems serious enough to be investigated.

    Polls like on status.net (with more than just two options)

    It would be a really a interesting feature indeed but is quite complex when it's done on a decentralized network. Also it will requires some discussion and thought on the XMPP level to see how it can be compatible with the other clients.

    Ability to share updates/blog entries only with certain contacts or groups

    This is not possible regarding how the current XMPP protocol (especially Pubsub) is working. For the moment we can only change the accesses on the node level (the blog or the community) and not on the item level (the posts).

    Autosave for blog entries (and Drafts would be good too, but not essential)

    You can open a feature request on GitHub for that one :)

    Only public blog entries are visible on a contact’s profile, even if we are friends. I believe that if we are friends and my friend has shared something with their contacts (not publicly), I should be able to see it on their profile, and not only on the news feed

    That's another nice feature request that can be implemented quite easily.

    Ability to visit a contact’s profile clicking on their name (this works on Newsfeed, but not on Chats)

    You can actually do it by clicking on the contact picture in a one-to-on discussion and by going in the contacts box in a chatroom (if the owner has allowed the share of JIDs).

    An easier way to create communities. Right now this feature is pretty much hidden

    This is mostly UI refactoring, possible but I don't have a clear idea to do it "more easily" for now.

    Ability to create private communities

    Once your Community is created you can configure using the settings offered by the XMPP server for the Pubsub nodes.

    Ability to invite contacts to a chatroom from the chatroom, without sending any link

    https://github.com/movim/movim/issues/188

    On Safari (both macOS and iOS) textbox takes only 20% of the width of the screen (it happens on chats and comments)

    That is a bug. You can open a ticket on GitHub with screenshots :)

    Unified timeline for all pods [?]

    Quite impossible in a decentralized network without exploring continuously the all graph (and basically reinventing Google for XMPP).

    Button to export our data

    Not planned. But all the data are saved on the XMPP account of the user so it should be quite trivial to build a tool outside Movim that can do that (and reimporting them? where?).

    Ability to share location with contacts

    If there is no interesting feature behind that I don't see the point of it in Movim for now.

    Movim for Android needs: Proper notifications for chats, comments, news, likes… Different ticks for different statuses (delivered to server, read…) Proper management for chatroom/conference links Send/Attachment button to work as expected

    I'm open to any contribution on the Android client to improve those points but it's not my priority to work on specific features for a dedicated platform (I'm already quite busy by building the generic things :)).

    As of today Conversations for Android would be the best option if your goal is to exchange messages, but then you wouldn't be able to take advantage of Movim's newsfeed or blog posts, which are the added values of this network and what makes Movim stand out over any other xmpp service. I believe that the team shouldn’t neglect the development of mobile apps knowing as we know that more and more people connect to the internet mainly via smartphone. What do I think about it?

    I agree but I really have a limited amount of time on the project so I'm focusing more on features that will have a bigger impact for most of the users for now. I'd like to wok more in per device/OS/platform integration but that can takes a lot of time to "do it well".

    Movim is seven (?) years which shows the developing team is committed to the platform. And that's great news. This feeling could be reinforced if they posted blog entries more often (maybe once a month?).

    That's true, also because of the limited amount of time that I have for the project here. But I'm trying (like with the current post).

    I believe that Movim would benefit from a better Android app as it could be gateway to gaining more users, boost social interest, and –who knows– attract more brains to help take it further. But I understand that they have prioritised their website which is universal and it does the job really well.

    You got it, but I'm always really happy to talk about and integrate external contributions in Movim and the related projects.

    Despite the far-from-perfect Android app, Movim is the most developed decentralised social network platform I have seen. It’s full of interesting features and if you come from pump.io or tent.io you’ll find many similarities and promising improvements. I would say that Movim has strong bones, it ticks more than just the basics and now it just needs to polish its features before adding new ones.

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      I have been using Movim for just one day and these are my impressions*

      Things that I like: There are many open source projects trying to reinvent the wheel, but Movim takes something that already exists and works well (XMPP) and improves it by adding features like communities and blogs No need for email or phone number to create an account It doesn't copy your phone's contact list to a server overseas All servers seem to be located in Europe so far, so data is supposed to be more protected Comments and Likes Ability to edit posts. Would be nice to be able to edit comments, too Looks great: takes all the screen (unlike tent.io, which feels cramped) but it doesn’t feel cold and empty like identi.ca does Communities. Communities lets you connect with people already using the social network, there is no need to convince your friends to start using a new service which –admit it– is extremely difficult There are no major bugs that get users on their nerves Things that I would like to see improved: When you add a contact they must accept your request and, when they accept it, you have to confirm it again. I sent them the request, of course I want to be friends! This last step doesn’t make much sense If someone has sent you a friend request you won’t be able to log in on Movim for Android: you’ll have to accept (or decline) the friendship request on a web browser and only then will you be able to sign in on Movim for Android again Polls like on status.net (with more than just two options) Ability to share updates/blog entries only with certain contacts or groups Autosave for blog entries (and Drafts would be good too, but not essential) Only public blog entries are visible on a contact’s profile, even if we are friends. I believe that if we are friends and my friend has shared something with their contacts (not publicly), I should be able to see it on their profile, and not only on the news feed Ability to visit a contact’s profile clicking on their name (this works on Newsfeed, but not on Chats) An easier way to create communities. Right now this feature is pretty much hidden Ability to create private communities Ability to invite contacts to a chatroom from the chatroom, without sending any link On Safari (both macOS and iOS) textbox takes only 20% of the width of the screen (it happens on chats and comments) Unified timeline for all pods [?] Button to export our data Things that I wouldn’t mind to see in the future: Ability to share location with contacts Check-ins Although none of them is key. Movim for Android needs: Proper notifications for chats, comments, news, likes… Different ticks for different statuses (delivered to server, read…) Proper management for chatroom/conference links Send/Attachment button to work as expected As of today Conversations for Android would be the best option if your goal is to exchange messages, but then you wouldn't be able to take advantage of Movim's newsfeed or blog posts, which are the added values of this network and what makes Movim stand out over any other xmpp service. I believe that the team shouldn’t neglect the development of mobile apps knowing as we know that more and more people connect to the internet mainly via smartphone. What do I think about it? Movim is seven (?) years which shows the developing team is committed to the platform. And that's great news. This feeling could be reinforced if they posted blog entries more often (maybe once a month?). I believe that Movim would benefit from a better Android app as it could be gateway to gaining more users, boost social interest, and –who knows– attract more brains to help take it further. But I understand that they have prioritised their website which is universal and it does the job really well. Despite the far-from-perfect Android app, Movim is the most developed decentralised social network platform I have seen. It’s full of interesting features and if you come from pump.io or tent.io you’ll find many similarities and promising improvements. I would say that Movim has strong bones, it ticks more than just the basics and now it just needs to polish its features before adding new ones. *from the view of a plain user, not a developer

      people Xabi 4 April, 2017